Comments on: JavaScript and Python and Java too http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/05/javascript-and-python-and-java-too a blog about the connected age Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:48:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: joy http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/05/javascript-and-python-and-java-too#comment-319 joy Fri, 19 May 2006 19:26:42 +0000 http://www.annezelenka.com/testbed/2006/05/javascript-and-python-and-java-too#comment-319 hey Anne, seriously thanks for that--hate to say it, but it might make me seem less dumb in these here parts! very useful! hope the move treated you well:) hey Anne,
seriously thanks for that–hate to say it, but it might make me seem less dumb in these here parts! very useful! hope the move treated you well:)

]]> By: Anne http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/05/javascript-and-python-and-java-too#comment-318 Anne Thu, 18 May 2006 13:06:03 +0000 http://www.annezelenka.com/testbed/2006/05/javascript-and-python-and-java-too#comment-318 Hmm, hadn't heard of OpenLaszlo before... sounds like you use some type of XML language with JavaScript embedded to develop dynamic web applications, output to either Flash or DHTML? Very interesting. It seems better to me to be closer to the actual output (i.e. write JavaScript vs. Java to get ultimately to Java) but I suppose in these cases the actual implementation of the framework is what really matters. I guess Google can target all the Java developers in corporate IT departments this way and, like you said, do an end run around Microsoft and ASP. I didn't think of it from a strategy point of view and obviously that's what you've got to do when thinking about Google, or any big company for that matter. They don't make decisions based solely or even mainly on technical/architectural concerns. Hmm, hadn’t heard of OpenLaszlo before… sounds like you use some type of XML language with JavaScript embedded to develop dynamic web applications, output to either Flash or DHTML? Very interesting. It seems better to me to be closer to the actual output (i.e. write JavaScript vs. Java to get ultimately to Java) but I suppose in these cases the actual implementation of the framework is what really matters.

I guess Google can target all the Java developers in corporate IT departments this way and, like you said, do an end run around Microsoft and ASP. I didn’t think of it from a strategy point of view and obviously that’s what you’ve got to do when thinking about Google, or any big company for that matter. They don’t make decisions based solely or even mainly on technical/architectural concerns.

]]> By: Eric http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/05/javascript-and-python-and-java-too#comment-317 Eric Thu, 18 May 2006 04:55:42 +0000 http://www.annezelenka.com/testbed/2006/05/javascript-and-python-and-java-too#comment-317 Ready. Shoot. Aim. Silly me. From Laszlo's pr on sharing libraries with Dojo Toolkit: "Laszlo recently revealed that by the end of this year (2006) developers using OpenLaszlo will have the option to deploy their applications in Dynamic HTML (DHTML), in addition to the Flash runtime option that is currently available. http://www.laszlosystems.com/company/press/press_releases/pr_apr_06.php Ready. Shoot. Aim. Silly me.

From Laszlo’s pr on sharing libraries with Dojo Toolkit:

“Laszlo recently revealed that by the end of this year (2006) developers using OpenLaszlo will have the option to deploy their applications in Dynamic HTML (DHTML), in addition to the Flash runtime option that is currently available.

http://www.laszlosystems.com/company/press/press_releases/pr_apr_06.php

]]> By: Eric http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/05/javascript-and-python-and-java-too#comment-316 Eric Thu, 18 May 2006 04:43:36 +0000 http://www.annezelenka.com/testbed/2006/05/javascript-and-python-and-java-too#comment-316 Remembering OpenLaszlo's work on similar technology wrinkled my thinking about Google's annoucement. What seemed entirely novel, now seems less so, but even more interesting. While I have not personally developed applications with the OpenLaszlo framework I understand it to abstract Ajax development from the client runtime. Why did Google take Java? Probably a combination of i) Java infrastructure, as you mentioned; ii) wide Java adotpion among enterprise developers giving the release hues of an offensive against Microsoft; iii) I'm looking for an inherent technological advantage to put here, but can't since both output Javascript--? If not baroque, then what? Remembering OpenLaszlo’s work on similar technology wrinkled my thinking about Google’s annoucement. What seemed entirely novel, now seems less so, but even more interesting. While I have not personally developed applications with the OpenLaszlo framework I understand it to abstract Ajax development from the client runtime.

Why did Google take Java? Probably a combination of i) Java infrastructure, as you mentioned; ii) wide Java adotpion among enterprise developers giving the release hues of an offensive against Microsoft; iii) I’m looking for an inherent technological advantage to put here, but can’t since both output Javascript–? If not baroque, then what?

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