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	<title>Comments on: Analysis Marketplaces: It&#8217;s Not About Cheaper</title>
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		<title>By: SKMurphy &#187; Born with a Face Made for Podcasting</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/analysis-marketplaces-its-not-about-cheaper#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator>SKMurphy &#187; Born with a Face Made for Podcasting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Dec 2006 10:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mike offered some clarifications on the program and it&#8217;s structure in the comments in response to some speculation by Anne Zelenka. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Mike offered some clarifications on the program and it&#8217;s structure in the comments in response to some speculation by Anne Zelenka. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/analysis-marketplaces-its-not-about-cheaper#comment-567</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 22:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brenda, I don't have a good understanding yet of the IP issues for this, not having worked in the analyst field. But my sense is that if it's going to work as a market and not a sort of ad hoc consulting firm, the analyst herself needs to own whatever she produces, whether it's anonymously offered or not.

I have run into a similar problem on one of my current contracts, where they own whatever I produce, leading me to be very careful about what sort of insights I offer. In such cases, you're right, the reasonable approach is to offer detailed specifics but not new lines of thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brenda, I don&#8217;t have a good understanding yet of the IP issues for this, not having worked in the analyst field. But my sense is that if it&#8217;s going to work as a market and not a sort of ad hoc consulting firm, the analyst herself needs to own whatever she produces, whether it&#8217;s anonymously offered or not.</p>
<p>I have run into a similar problem on one of my current contracts, where they own whatever I produce, leading me to be very careful about what sort of insights I offer. In such cases, you&#8217;re right, the reasonable approach is to offer detailed specifics but not new lines of thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: brenda michelson</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/analysis-marketplaces-its-not-about-cheaper#comment-566</link>
		<dc:creator>brenda michelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if there are any intellectual property implications.  Would my insights be considered work for hire, and therefore the property of TechDirt?  If so, I think I'd approach the questions I answered like ghostwriting assignments.  Pretty specific, topics I know well, but not requiring a new line of thinking.  I wouldn't want to lose my ideas/work for $100 (or the going rate).  Especially since the insights aren't attributed to the blogger.  As I type this, I think I'm more hung up on the anonymity (lack of attribution) than the rate.  Interesting concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if there are any intellectual property implications.  Would my insights be considered work for hire, and therefore the property of TechDirt?  If so, I think I&#8217;d approach the questions I answered like ghostwriting assignments.  Pretty specific, topics I know well, but not requiring a new line of thinking.  I wouldn&#8217;t want to lose my ideas/work for $100 (or the going rate).  Especially since the insights aren&#8217;t attributed to the blogger.  As I type this, I think I&#8217;m more hung up on the anonymity (lack of attribution) than the rate.  Interesting concept.</p>
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		<title>By: James  Governor</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/analysis-marketplaces-its-not-about-cheaper#comment-574</link>
		<dc:creator>James  Governor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>likesay, emerging competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>likesay, emerging competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/analysis-marketplaces-its-not-about-cheaper#comment-573</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, given Mike's clarifications, it looks a whole lot better than I thought. I may submit my own name/blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, given Mike&#8217;s clarifications, it looks a whole lot better than I thought. I may submit my own name/blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/analysis-marketplaces-its-not-about-cheaper#comment-572</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, thanks for the clarification. Sounds like your insight community is much closer to a real marketplace for analysis than how it had been portrayed.

Interesting point that the companies get great value out of the discussion itself, just like we learn things through blogosphere back and forth. And it's free! So perhaps it's hasty to say that $50 can't buy you considered opinion. In-depth research for a c-note? Perhaps not, but maybe the market for that will evolve, and thoroughgoing research will be compensated appropriately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, thanks for the clarification. Sounds like your insight community is much closer to a real marketplace for analysis than how it had been portrayed.</p>
<p>Interesting point that the companies get great value out of the discussion itself, just like we learn things through blogosphere back and forth. And it&#8217;s free! So perhaps it&#8217;s hasty to say that $50 can&#8217;t buy you considered opinion. In-depth research for a c-note? Perhaps not, but maybe the market for that will evolve, and thoroughgoing research will be compensated appropriately.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Masnick</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/analysis-marketplaces-its-not-about-cheaper#comment-571</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Masnick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anne,

I'm CEO of Techdirt and just wanted to clear up some of the issues raised by your post.  Kevin was wrong in stating that bloggers simply get $50 to $100.  As you suggest, it is a market place.  The bloggers get to set their own prices.  Kevin had asked what the typical price was -- and so far, $50 to $100 seems to be the range that people are choosing.  And, based on that, I should say that I 100% disagree with you that at $100 you don't get "in-depth research or considered opinion."  You'd be amazed at the level of analysis and opinion the bloggers in the program have already been giving.

Also, almost all of the feature suggestions that you make are already in the program, or are on the roadmap to be added soon (your first point, of ordering the responses to determine payments, is on the roadmap -- all the other features are already available).

As for the anonymity issue, that's only one aspect of the service, and came from specific discussions with both bloggers and our existing customers.  There are a ton of advantages in having the anonymity -- from more honest analysis, to actually responding to the issue rather than the company (i.e, telling a company what they want to hear as opposed to what they need to hear).  However, again, that's only one aspect of the service, and some of the offerings will allow discussions without anonymity in place.  It all depends on what the bloggers and the companies need for the particular issue they're raising.

Finally, the focus is very much on better value for your dollars, not "cheaper."  In the beta tests we've been running, that's exactly what we've found.  The companies (multi-billion dollar ones) that have been using the service feel they're getting a lot more value in seeing multiple different perspectives and analysis (including discussions *among* and *between* the various bloggers) than just talking to "the wise man on the hill" at some analyst or consulting firm.

If you have any more questions about the service, please feel free to ask me.

Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anne,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m CEO of Techdirt and just wanted to clear up some of the issues raised by your post.  Kevin was wrong in stating that bloggers simply get $50 to $100.  As you suggest, it is a market place.  The bloggers get to set their own prices.  Kevin had asked what the typical price was &#8212; and so far, $50 to $100 seems to be the range that people are choosing.  And, based on that, I should say that I 100% disagree with you that at $100 you don&#8217;t get &#8220;in-depth research or considered opinion.&#8221;  You&#8217;d be amazed at the level of analysis and opinion the bloggers in the program have already been giving.</p>
<p>Also, almost all of the feature suggestions that you make are already in the program, or are on the roadmap to be added soon (your first point, of ordering the responses to determine payments, is on the roadmap &#8212; all the other features are already available).</p>
<p>As for the anonymity issue, that&#8217;s only one aspect of the service, and came from specific discussions with both bloggers and our existing customers.  There are a ton of advantages in having the anonymity &#8212; from more honest analysis, to actually responding to the issue rather than the company (i.e, telling a company what they want to hear as opposed to what they need to hear).  However, again, that&#8217;s only one aspect of the service, and some of the offerings will allow discussions without anonymity in place.  It all depends on what the bloggers and the companies need for the particular issue they&#8217;re raising.</p>
<p>Finally, the focus is very much on better value for your dollars, not &#8220;cheaper.&#8221;  In the beta tests we&#8217;ve been running, that&#8217;s exactly what we&#8217;ve found.  The companies (multi-billion dollar ones) that have been using the service feel they&#8217;re getting a lot more value in seeing multiple different perspectives and analysis (including discussions *among* and *between* the various bloggers) than just talking to &#8220;the wise man on the hill&#8221; at some analyst or consulting firm.</p>
<p>If you have any more questions about the service, please feel free to ask me.</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Solis</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/analysis-marketplaces-its-not-about-cheaper#comment-570</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Solis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne, great post. I was there for the blitz demonstrations and I think that this is an interesting proposition. I'm going to register just to cover the experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne, great post. I was there for the blitz demonstrations and I think that this is an interesting proposition. I&#8217;m going to register just to cover the experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/analysis-marketplaces-its-not-about-cheaper#comment-569</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, for $100 you're not going to get in-depth research or considered opinion.

As for whether the blogger-analysts should have some level of anonymity, that's an open issue. There are questions of how honest the analysts feel free to be, how much they are subject to influence that might distort their opinions, and whether external factors like outside reputation might affect their reputation in the analysis marketplace in such a way that inefficiency is introduced. In general, open and transparent seems better and more web2.0ish. But it's not clear that the dynamics would be the same, better, or worse than if all parties were anonymous. How can the market be made most efficient and produce the most value? How does anonymity play into that? It's a new world--maybe some experimentation needs to be done to see what works best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, for $100 you&#8217;re not going to get in-depth research or considered opinion.</p>
<p>As for whether the blogger-analysts should have some level of anonymity, that&#8217;s an open issue. There are questions of how honest the analysts feel free to be, how much they are subject to influence that might distort their opinions, and whether external factors like outside reputation might affect their reputation in the analysis marketplace in such a way that inefficiency is introduced. In general, open and transparent seems better and more web2.0ish. But it&#8217;s not clear that the dynamics would be the same, better, or worse than if all parties were anonymous. How can the market be made most efficient and produce the most value? How does anonymity play into that? It&#8217;s a new world&#8211;maybe some experimentation needs to be done to see what works best.</p>
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		<title>By: rick gregory</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick gregory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 17:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne... Good points. I'll add that 1) what you're going to get for under $100 is reaction and high level opinion, not analysis and 2) that the anonymity is   an odd and unattractive feature - why do the bloggers need to remain anonymous? I can't think an advantage to the blogger/analyst, nor for the firm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne&#8230; Good points. I&#8217;ll add that 1) what you&#8217;re going to get for under $100 is reaction and high level opinion, not analysis and 2) that the anonymity is   an odd and unattractive feature - why do the bloggers need to remain anonymous? I can&#8217;t think an advantage to the blogger/analyst, nor for the firm.</p>
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