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		<title>By: tech decentral &#187; Flash Myths Redux</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/flash-conceptions-and-misconceptions#comment-606</link>
		<dc:creator>tech decentral &#187; Flash Myths Redux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ryan Stewart of the Universal Desktop blog on ZDNet suggested I do a &#8220;Six Myths About Flash&#8221; post to go with my Six Myths About Ajax. Already done, in October:Flash Conceptions and Misconceptions. But I only included five myths about Flash when I wrote that right before Adobe MAX, so let me add a sixth. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Ryan Stewart of the Universal Desktop blog on ZDNet suggested I do a &#8220;Six Myths About Flash&#8221; post to go with my Six Myths About Ajax. Already done, in October:Flash Conceptions and Misconceptions. But I only included five myths about Flash when I wrote that right before Adobe MAX, so let me add a sixth. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Anne 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why Can&#8217;t Users Maintain Their Own Interactive Websites?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne 2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why Can&#8217;t Users Maintain Their Own Interactive Websites?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All he wants is a website worthy of his firm, a website that meets his own standards, that truly reflects what he can do. But it&#8217;s near impossible to make it these days. He mentioned Google Maps. Ajax, I told him, very cool. But wouldn&#8217;t Flash be better? That&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve recommended Flash. But imagine: you look at the plan of a house and mouse over a feature that interests you. Architect&#8217;s notes pop up, telling you how the kitchen window overlooks the backyard so you can see the kids playing. Or you drill into a video of the room itself. You click on the office and get an image of the built-in desk and bookcases. Then you watch a little video about how the home design or remodeling process works. How cool! But how does my neighbor build that or even get someone else to build it for him, for a reasonable price? And how does he update it and keep it fresh over time? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] All he wants is a website worthy of his firm, a website that meets his own standards, that truly reflects what he can do. But it&#8217;s near impossible to make it these days. He mentioned Google Maps. Ajax, I told him, very cool. But wouldn&#8217;t Flash be better? That&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve recommended Flash. But imagine: you look at the plan of a house and mouse over a feature that interests you. Architect&#8217;s notes pop up, telling you how the kitchen window overlooks the backyard so you can see the kids playing. Or you drill into a video of the room itself. You click on the office and get an image of the built-in desk and bookcases. Then you watch a little video about how the home design or remodeling process works. How cool! But how does my neighbor build that or even get someone else to build it for him, for a reasonable price? And how does he update it and keep it fresh over time? [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Feltus</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/flash-conceptions-and-misconceptions#comment-604</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Feltus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's strange how Flash is perceived by coders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s strange how Flash is perceived by coders.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Whatcott</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/flash-conceptions-and-misconceptions#comment-603</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Whatcott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 02:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the following site on Flex and accessibility.
http://www.adobe.com/macromedia/accessibility/features/flex/

See the following link about SWF metadata for searchability:
http://tutorials.lastashero.com/2005/10/using_swf_metadata_in_flash_8.html

One other point about searchability is that it is important to remember the difference between searching content and searching application data.  The former is what search engines are designed to do.  They don't really do the latter at all, and that's a good thing.  Let me illustrate this with an example.

Go to google and search for "customize a harley".  The top link will take you to http://tinyurl.com/yev4xu.  Perfect.  There you'll see a link to "Build the Harley of Your Dreams".  When you click on it, you'll start a Flex-based configurator RIA that will visually guide you through the process of building a custom bike.  So was  this app searchable?  Well, not in the traditional sense - Google did not return data from the part compatibility rules engine.  But was the app findable?  Very.

In most RIAs (Flex or Ajax or Servlets or XUL or XAML), the application initializes on the client is populated with data through middleware layer on a remote server.  The application doesn't contain much, if any data.  It is a container into which data is poured via JSON, SOAP, REST, AMF, RTMP, RMI, Remoting, etc.)  In this architecture, what is that you want to have a search engine index? The UI of the app (how many data grids are there, how many numeric steppers are there, and what color are they, etc?)? Probably not. Do you want Google to index the full contents of the remote database? Probably not, unless it is a product catalog, in which case by all means, you should put it out there for searching.  Is it the fact that the RIA exists - that there is a useful tool that can streamline a complex multi-step process that is of interest to me? Absolutely! Is this possible with Flex/Flash?  Absolutely. You just have to think about the *application* in the context of all the *content* that surrounds it.  Content is meant to be searched.  Apps are meant to be used.  Content helps you find useful apps.  I think it's that simple.  Let me know if I'm missing something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the following site on Flex and accessibility.<br />
<a href="http://www.adobe.com/macromedia/accessibility/features/flex/" rel="nofollow">http://www.adobe.com/macromedia/accessibility/features/flex/</a></p>
<p>See the following link about SWF metadata for searchability:<br />
<a href="http://tutorials.lastashero.com/2005/10/using_swf_metadata_in_flash_8.html" rel="nofollow">http://tutorials.lastashero.com/2005/10/using_swf_metadata_in_flash_8.html</a></p>
<p>One other point about searchability is that it is important to remember the difference between searching content and searching application data.  The former is what search engines are designed to do.  They don&#8217;t really do the latter at all, and that&#8217;s a good thing.  Let me illustrate this with an example.</p>
<p>Go to google and search for &#8220;customize a harley&#8221;.  The top link will take you to <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yev4xu" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yev4xu</a>.  Perfect.  There you&#8217;ll see a link to &#8220;Build the Harley of Your Dreams&#8221;.  When you click on it, you&#8217;ll start a Flex-based configurator RIA that will visually guide you through the process of building a custom bike.  So was  this app searchable?  Well, not in the traditional sense - Google did not return data from the part compatibility rules engine.  But was the app findable?  Very.</p>
<p>In most RIAs (Flex or Ajax or Servlets or XUL or XAML), the application initializes on the client is populated with data through middleware layer on a remote server.  The application doesn&#8217;t contain much, if any data.  It is a container into which data is poured via JSON, SOAP, REST, AMF, RTMP, RMI, Remoting, etc.)  In this architecture, what is that you want to have a search engine index? The UI of the app (how many data grids are there, how many numeric steppers are there, and what color are they, etc?)? Probably not. Do you want Google to index the full contents of the remote database? Probably not, unless it is a product catalog, in which case by all means, you should put it out there for searching.  Is it the fact that the RIA exists - that there is a useful tool that can streamline a complex multi-step process that is of interest to me? Absolutely! Is this possible with Flex/Flash?  Absolutely. You just have to think about the *application* in the context of all the *content* that surrounds it.  Content is meant to be searched.  Apps are meant to be used.  Content helps you find useful apps.  I think it&#8217;s that simple.  Let me know if I&#8217;m missing something.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/flash-conceptions-and-misconceptions#comment-602</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Sara, I should have thought of the accessibility issue--always an important one to keep in mind when talking about any software, web-based or otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Sara, I should have thought of the accessibility issue&#8211;always an important one to keep in mind when talking about any software, web-based or otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/flash-conceptions-and-misconceptions#comment-601</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam - absolutely, Flash gives a much more rich experience than you can get with Ajax apps. On the flip side, HTML content is indexable by search engines while Flash content is not. Those are pretty serious tradeoffs to consider when choosing an approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam - absolutely, Flash gives a much more rich experience than you can get with Ajax apps. On the flip side, HTML content is indexable by search engines while Flash content is not. Those are pretty serious tradeoffs to consider when choosing an approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/flash-conceptions-and-misconceptions#comment-600</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael - thanks for the tip on Apollo; the session I went to on it was fascinating. I'm still chewing on what Apollo means for the future. As for the "flash deep linking" issue, I'll have to save that for my next Flash post, because I think there's a bunch more to cover. Whether I'll get  to it or not, who knows? But Flash/Flex is pretty amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael - thanks for the tip on Apollo; the session I went to on it was fascinating. I&#8217;m still chewing on what Apollo means for the future. As for the &#8220;flash deep linking&#8221; issue, I&#8217;ll have to save that for my next Flash post, because I think there&#8217;s a bunch more to cover. Whether I&#8217;ll get  to it or not, who knows? But Flash/Flex is pretty amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/flash-conceptions-and-misconceptions#comment-599</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 23:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't forget:

6) Accessibility issues for users with disabilities -- not just visual disabilities, but hearing and learning disabilities as well, and even motor disabilities

I actually have done some digging recently that shows that's not entirely true either -- but it takes a good deal of work to make that so:
http://www.webaim.org/techniques/flash/

With educational software, especially, you need to be aware of these things, as with public schools and universities, Section 508 may come into play, as well as state-level legislation regarding accessibility for public education...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget:</p>
<p>6) Accessibility issues for users with disabilities &#8212; not just visual disabilities, but hearing and learning disabilities as well, and even motor disabilities</p>
<p>I actually have done some digging recently that shows that&#8217;s not entirely true either &#8212; but it takes a good deal of work to make that so:<br />
<a href="http://www.webaim.org/techniques/flash/" rel="nofollow">http://www.webaim.org/techniques/flash/</a></p>
<p>With educational software, especially, you need to be aware of these things, as with public schools and universities, Section 508 may come into play, as well as state-level legislation regarding accessibility for public education&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Feltus</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/flash-conceptions-and-misconceptions#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Feltus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In these debates between Web Display Technologies, there is one major point in Flash's favor, that a coder is especially likely to overlook.

Flash allows a far greater range of expression than other web canvasses.  Flash allows the content creator to express far more emotion and other such human experiences.  It is very difficult with HTML/JS to appeal to emotions and such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In these debates between Web Display Technologies, there is one major point in Flash&#8217;s favor, that a coder is especially likely to overlook.</p>
<p>Flash allows a far greater range of expression than other web canvasses.  Flash allows the content creator to express far more emotion and other such human experiences.  It is very difficult with HTML/JS to appeal to emotions and such.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Klishin</title>
		<link>http://www.annezelenka.com/2006/10/flash-conceptions-and-misconceptions#comment-597</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Klishin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, useless link, here it comes: http://www.asual.com/swfaddress/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, useless link, here it comes: <a href="http://www.asual.com/swfaddress/" rel="nofollow">http://www.asual.com/swfaddress/</a></p>
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